Founding Member Cryistic Posted April 25, 2015 Founding Member Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Over on Retro Rides, quite a lot of awful yo! slam stuff over there but also some great builds, this is from the for sale section http://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/177590/rover-827-sterling-1995-cambridgeshire For every honey like that you get some awful tat like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Laird_Scooby Posted April 25, 2015 Moderators Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 That green Sterling is definitely a honey - if i had the money and space i know where it would be by now! As for the silver Mitsubishi Evo (the DVLA list it as being silver!!! ) i don't think i'd give it driveway-space in that condition! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founding Member Mazda Man Posted April 25, 2015 Founding Member Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Blimey, is that rust or is it supposed to be that colour? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Laird_Scooby Posted April 25, 2015 Moderators Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Blimey, is that rust or is it supposed to be that colour? Apparently it's rust paint - whatever that may be and he freely admits to having done it deliberately in his sales thread! Takes all sorts i suppose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founding Member Mazda Man Posted April 25, 2015 Founding Member Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Perhaps I'm being thick....there's paint you can buy that is made to look like rust? You're right there Dave, takes all sorts and it's obviously been thrashed to death and the paint is hiding a load of problems, wonder what the HPI check says?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Laird_Scooby Posted April 25, 2015 Moderators Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Apparently there is Geoff - i've never heard of it either and can't imagine why you'd want to do it to a car! Reckon you're right it's been thrashed - he withdrew it from sale once because he likes playing with the 300bhp that it's got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founding Member Cryistic Posted April 26, 2015 Founding Member Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rat_rod It's a style choice, bloody stupid one in my view but it's up to the owner. It certainly doesn't mean it's not spot on Mechanically. I'd want my rat look car working perfectly as I wouldn't want to break down and have to listen to the people laughing at the paintwork.......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Laird_Scooby Posted April 26, 2015 Moderators Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 Very interesting link Richie - thanks. Don't know if it's the way i read it but it comes across as predominantly American in the explanation and use of the term. I know by-and-large most terms translate across the Pond word for word but i get the impression something has been lost in this translation. It seems more along the lines of the USA rat-rod is built from various bits whereas the UK version (from what i've seen anyway) seems more like "let's get a car, trash the paintwork, stick naff (often steel or very scruffy alloys) wheels and a stupidly big spoiler on it but (usually - not always though!) make it go well". It may well be spot on mechanically but i'd still be too embarassed to give it driveway space unless it was a "work in progress". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founding Member Cryistic Posted April 26, 2015 Founding Member Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 No it's a generic style choice popular across the world particularly with JDM and VAG cars. excessive lowering and camber are another branch of the "style" Good explanation here, still looks fucking awful mind. http://rat-look.com/what-is-rat-look/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founding Member Mazda Man Posted April 26, 2015 Founding Member Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 :lol: To the casual observer, the car looks like it been at the bottom of the sea for years!! Well, I've learnt something new today. I think I'll leave Purple's glorious paint well alone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators hughezee Posted April 26, 2015 Author Administrators Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 excessive lowering and camber are another branch of the "style" Car stance not my cup of tea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Laird_Scooby Posted April 26, 2015 Moderators Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 I find it hard to equate the word "Style" with the "rat-look" if that means trashing the paintwork. Granted 30 years ago i had a battered Mk3 Cortina that went like stink but had a dent on every panel - and that was before it hit the tree!!! The current rat-look definitely does look awful with a capital "F", you're right! Just noticed the wheels on that Civic "Caracature" : Think i'm going to cry now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founding Member Mazda Man Posted April 26, 2015 Founding Member Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 Car stance not my cup of tea Ha ha, agreed, go over a road hump or pothole and spend the next 6 mths in traction due to your spine shattering! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators hughezee Posted April 26, 2015 Author Administrators Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 :lol: To the casual observer, the car looks like it been at the bottom of the sea for years!! Well, I've learnt something new today. I think I'll leave Purple's glorious paint well alone! No offense to the Rovers or any owners of them subliminal message with all this rust look talk could be sore point maybe it's wise to split this topic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Laird_Scooby Posted April 26, 2015 Moderators Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 No offense to the Rovers or any owners of them subliminal message with all this rust look talk could be sore point maybe it's wise to split this topic I think you're pretty safe leaving it how it is Stu - the last Rovers to rust spectacularly were the SD1s but i've seen some mint, original examples of those and to be fair, BL had the problem solved by about 1980 when they switched to proper British Steel instead of cheap Russian or Italian stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founding Member Cryistic Posted April 26, 2015 Founding Member Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 I think you're pretty safe leaving it how it is Stu - the last Rovers to rust spectacularly were the SD1s but i've seen some mint, original examples of those and to be fair, BL had the problem solved by about 1980 when they switched to proper British Steel instead of cheap Russian or Italian stuff. Was the Montego the exception that proved the rule Dave 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Laird_Scooby Posted April 26, 2015 Moderators Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 To me, the Montego (and Maestro) have always been Austin models, despite the re-branding in 1990 ish. As such i didn't count them. Also, i think the Montego was the deception that screwed the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators hughezee Posted April 26, 2015 Author Administrators Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 So pleased this SD1 is back on the road : http://www.channel4.com/programmes/for-the-love-of-cars/on-demand/60243-002 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Laird_Scooby Posted April 26, 2015 Moderators Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 I watched that too but it also got a mention in a recent Practical Classics (for the record breaking auction hammer price) - can't remember which month but it was a month or two back now. Always nice to see cars that have a historical significance returned to the road (or museum in this case which i think is a shame as it needs to be used) and saved from the great car park in the sky. I keep humming and haaing about doing a similar thing to RetroRich and restoring an Acclaim as it was the first real collaboration between BL/Austin-Rover/ARG/Rover and Honda (even though it was really just a rebadged Mk1 Ballade) and as such is a very significant motoring milestone. I'd really like to restore an Avon Acclaim (especially the turbo) but if not i'd settle for restoring a replica Avon Acclaim. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founding Member Cryistic Posted April 27, 2015 Founding Member Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 Ex-Police SD1 epic repair thread - Look no further. http://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/131089/1986-rover-sd1-3500se-police Not that there is much left of the original car now... Guy deserves a medal, theres a similar thread on a Rolls as well and the always entertaining thread by MrBollox who seems to have a fondness for fixing Rover R8s and Maseratis. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Laird_Scooby Posted April 27, 2015 Moderators Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 I double-checked the PC edition when the Police SD1 is mentioned - May 2015 edition so the current one, page 26 and there's actually an interview with the curator of the Grampian Transport Museum http://www.gtm.org.uk/ about the museums involvement with the car, past and present. Ex-Police SD1 epic repair thread - Look no further. http://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/131089/1986-rover-sd1-3500se-police Not that there is much left of the original car now... Guy deserves a medal, theres a similar thread on a Rolls as well and the always entertaining thrread by MrBollox who seems to have a fondness for fixing Rover R8s and Maseratis. Great thread Richie - nice find! Also nice to see a Honda-powered (ex-Met) Police Pursuit vehicle managed to creep into that thread (page 6), owned, maintained and cosseted by a serving Met Police Officer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators hughezee Posted April 27, 2015 Author Administrators Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 Great restoration, shame some pic's are missing though 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founding Member Mazda Man Posted April 27, 2015 Founding Member Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 Ex-Police SD1 epic repair thread - Look no further. http://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/131089/1986-rover-sd1-3500se-police Not that there is much left of the original car now... Guy deserves a medal, theres a similar thread on a Rolls as well and the always entertaining thread by MrBollox who seems to have a fondness for fixing Rover R8s and Maseratis. Blimey, you ain't wrong there Ritchie. There's more rust than paint, it's gotta cost more to renovate than the car's actually worth, surely? If it was a rare Maserati or Ferrar then yes, but a Rover SD1? The guy deserves the Medal of Honour! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Laird_Scooby Posted April 27, 2015 Moderators Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 It's not so much about the cost of the repairs being more than the car is worth Geoff, it's more about the fact that he couldn't go and buy another one in a restored state. In fact, finding any SD1 for sale these days is a bit of an achievement although i have heard there's a few on fleabay just now. Factor in the early models propensity to rust and it's even harder to find an intact one. Although the later versions were much better in this respect, they are still at least 30 years old now and as such are likely to have at least some of the dreaded tinworm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founding Member Mazda Man Posted April 28, 2015 Founding Member Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 Good point Dave. Perhaps I've been spoilt with Honda's but I don't see the point in buying an absolute rust bucket then spending loads of time, effort and work bringing it back to it's former glory? You've obviously got to have the know-how, expertise, equipment/tools and the room to work on it too. No...I'd much rather drive my car than spend my time faffing around. The bloke who sold it must have been rubbing his hands and skipping down the road when he got rid of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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