Morgleymorgs Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 3 hours ago, Laird_Scooby said: Are you sure? Yep, it started out as a grinding/whirling sound. Thought it was alternator at first until I took belt off and reached down to the compressor and felt lots of play in the pulley. It started to stick so bad that my belt snapped on way home from work. Now I've got the compressor out it's so seized it's hard to spin the pulley. Bearings maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Laird_Scooby Posted January 27, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 Sounds very like the compressor clutch bearings to me. Doesn't make the compressor a write-off though usually. When the A/C is off, the compressor clutch isn't engaged so no drive to the compressor shaft and the clutch spns freely. When the A/C is on, the clutch is engaged and the clutch bearing is used, they can be seriously noisy if they are worn and most common ones are available quite cheaply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators hughezee Posted April 13, 2022 Administrators Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 A.C refrigerant and PAG46 oil refresh today, I confused the guys at ATS as the system was still full 😂 it was reassuring I don't have any leaks but it is getting on for three years since I last had it done. The manufacturer recommends replacing their product every two years and I would say they're spot on. The A.C wasn't as cold as should be and the compressor wasn't behaving as it should, so the high and low pressure was out of spec. Anyway, with the new refrigerant, everything is back to normal now and it just shows how important the lubrication is within the system. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Laird_Scooby Posted April 13, 2022 Moderators Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 47 minutes ago, hughezee said: The manufacturer recommends replacing their product every two years and I would say they're spot on. The A.C wasn't as cold as should be and the compressor wasn't behaving as it should, so the high and low pressure was out of spec. The other thing Stu that helps is that when the system is evacuated to remove the gas and oil, it also removes any moisture within the system and also within the reciever-dryer. This means there is less moisture present in the system that can freeze and cause blockages reducing the efficiency and making the numbers on the guages do strange things. Good to hear the Coupe system is leak-free abd once more performing as it should. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Subscriber’s Chrismas Posted April 13, 2022 Site Subscriber’s Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 51 minutes ago, hughezee said: A.C refrigerant and PAG46 oil refresh today, I confused the guys at ATS as the system was still full 😂 it was reassuring I don't have any leaks but it is getting on for three years since I last had it done. The manufacturer recommends replacing their product every two years and I would say they're spot on. The A.C wasn't as cold as should be and the compressor wasn't behaving as it should, so the high and low pressure was out of spec. Anyway, with the new refrigerant, everything is back to normal now and it just shows how important the lubrication is within the system. May I ask how much they charged you? My local garage charges about 95quid, blaming the cost of the gas, etc, using the Bosch system. But it only lasted 6 months, and my garage spotted no leaks either. There must be a leak somewhere. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators hughezee Posted April 13, 2022 Administrators Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 33 minutes ago, Chrismas said: May I ask how much they charged you? My local garage charges about 95quid Air Conditioning Recharge Service with R134A refrigerant at ATS is £62 but the manager always looks after me. 😉 They use all the latest kit anyway, so I can't complain as it is more expensive to do it myself even with a basic kit and gauges I use. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PTR200S Posted April 13, 2022 Moderators Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 I think mine is on the cards to do this year, still good and cold but I sometimes get the feeling it's not quite polar bear territory!! Last time I checked the pressure used was OK but that was ,,,,oh, ,,,,erm,,, two years back ..March 20th..the last Friday before lockdown 🤪🤪🤪🤪 Protyre quoted me 65 quid last time..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founding Member PaulS Posted April 13, 2022 Founding Member Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 Mine has not been working for at least 2 years.... Last time I had it done, it lasted 2 weeks. I went back and they could not find any leaks by either looking for leaking flourescent dye or not holding a vac. However they refilled for free and it lasted just another 2 weeks or so. As it has not been that warm most of the time, I sort of gave up... just use another car when the weather is otherwise too hot. But I would like to know what is wrong even if I never fix it...... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators hughezee Posted April 13, 2022 Administrators Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 2 hours ago, PaulS said: But I would like to know what is wrong even if I never fix it...... Did it last two weeks in terms of noticeable temperature change or did the compressor stop working due to low pressure? The majority of databases don't include the coupe and most garages will default to the 1998-2002 accord in general which is 500-550. This has a smaller capacity than the coupes 625-650, so the majority get underfilled and don't last long in terms of operation rather than an actual sIginifanct loss. I have mine filled to 625 which is the minimum for it to function on the V6 & 2.0 Coupe is 600-650, I would be more than happy to take look at this year's meet if you can make it over.👍 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PTR200S Posted April 22, 2022 Moderators Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 Got a free check on air con with Protyre . They also have 25% off refills so 45 quid if needed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Laird_Scooby Posted April 22, 2022 Moderators Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 22 minutes ago, PTR200S said: Got a free check on air con with Protyre . I remember when they were called Micheldever Tyres and only had the one depot at Micheldever Station 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PTR200S Posted April 22, 2022 Moderators Report Share Posted April 22, 2022 Funnily enough they still have depots with that name, not near me but Sheffield, Saint Helens and Ellend at least !! Presumably the wholesale division with Protyre being the front end now ????? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founding Member PaulS Posted April 23, 2022 Founding Member Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 On 4/13/2022 at 10:47 PM, hughezee said: I have mine filled to 625 which is the minimum for it to function on the V6 & 2.0 Coupe is 600-650, I would be more than happy to take look at this year's meet if you can make it over. Thanks for this info. I will go back again now its startingto warm up. If still not sorted, I will happily & gratefully accept your offer of having a look atthe August meet (I am intending coming ...) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PTR200S Posted April 26, 2022 Moderators Report Share Posted April 26, 2022 Today I had the aircon checked....lost 172 grams ....at least three years. Pumped up to 650 now, cold down to 6.5C under test 🥶🥶🥶🥶 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PTR200S Posted April 26, 2022 Moderators Report Share Posted April 26, 2022 Next job is the cabin filter change , I got home and the postie had delivered the Blueprint pollen filters. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Laird_Scooby Posted April 26, 2022 Moderators Report Share Posted April 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, PTR200S said: cold down to 6.5C under test 🥶🥶🥶🥶 Chilly enough to thermally castrate an alloy primate! Think i need to do the same with my latest acquisition now i've fixed the feed to the Dual Coolant Control Valve so it's now cold, hot or anywhere i want in between instead of hot or hotter! Ordered some cabin filters from ECP yesterday for it, bought 9 because they were only £1.26 each! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PTR200S Posted April 26, 2022 Moderators Report Share Posted April 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Laird_Scooby said: Chilly enough to thermally castrate an alloy primate! Think i need to do the same with my latest acquisition now i've fixed the feed to the Dual Coolant Control Valve so it's now cold, hot or anywhere i want in between instead of hot or hotter! Ordered some cabin filters from ECP yesterday for it, bought 9 because they were only £1.26 each! It feels a really big difference now, you don't notice the deteriorating level until it really isn't working properly!!! An improvement in your heating system then !!!! Erm, nine filters ??? !!!!! 🤣 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Laird_Scooby Posted April 26, 2022 Moderators Report Share Posted April 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, PTR200S said: An improvement in your heating system then !!!! yes, i can now get cool air out of it! The way it's set up is both valves are open in their natural position and closed to shuit them and stop the supply of hot coolant to the heater matrices or PWM switched to regulate at a chosen temperature. The air blend flap fine tunes it within a couple of degrees. 9 minutes ago, PTR200S said: Erm, nine filters ??? !!!!! 🤣 Cheapest on fleabay for one was £13.50 delivered, i thought ECP were still doing free postage on economy delivery so divided £13.50 by £1.26 and got about 9 so ordered them. I did it in my head and didn't have my maths head on so came up with a deliberate mistake which went halfway to covering the £3.95 delivery so i was halfway right. That said i'm sure the price had changed when i actually paid as it came out at about £17 all in. Either way, if i changed them every 2 years, it gives me quite a few years before i have to buy more but knowing how many leaves etc there are round here, it might need changing more often! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingK0ng Posted August 5, 2022 Report Share Posted August 5, 2022 On 4/13/2022 at 5:41 PM, hughezee said: A.C refrigerant and PAG46 oil refresh today Hi there, i spoke with a technician that does only car conditioning stuff and he told me that except under certain circumstances compressor does not need any kind of oil maintenance as refill, flush and replacement like we do with engines or gearboxes. I'm not well aware of airconditioning stuff so what's the deal with this pag46 oil ? Does our compressor have any plugs for drain and refill ? Didn't checked yet but is this ac compressor oil change mentionned somewhere in the Honda manual service and repair ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Laird_Scooby Posted August 5, 2022 Moderators Report Share Posted August 5, 2022 The Pag oil is introduced into the system with the gas during filling at the factory and/or regassing so there is no facility for changing the compressor oil under normal service items. However, the reciever/dryer should be renewed every 2-3 years as a service item, as such the system would have to be evacuated and the gas and oil and any sealants, leak detector dye etc is recovered. Then when the system is empty, it's safe to disconnect the old reciever/dryer and fit a new one and connect it. Then the whole system would be vacuumed down to remove any moisture that had entered the system while it was open and confirm there are no leaks. Then fresh gas, Pag oil and if wished, leak detector and maybe sealant is added in the specified amounts and the system tested for performance. Other than that (and obviously any other component failures/leaks) it isn't possible to change the oil in the compressor and generally isn't needed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingK0ng Posted August 5, 2022 Report Share Posted August 5, 2022 Laird_Scooby, appreciate the insight. Don't know if the reciever/dryer has been changed by the previous owner and lazy to check the services papers since they're in german which i don't understand anyway.. But even tho i never used the a/c since i got the car i think i will replace it during the a/c maintenance as a safety measure. If i correctly understand the last part the only circumstances when the compressor oil has to be replaced is leakage or disasembling ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Laird_Scooby Posted August 5, 2022 Moderators Report Share Posted August 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, KingK0ng said: If i correctly understand the last part the only circumstances when the compressor oil has to be replaced is leakage or disasembling ? That's about it, yes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingK0ng Posted August 6, 2022 Report Share Posted August 6, 2022 Any recommendation for a reciever/dryer replacement ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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