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Steve in Ireland

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Welcome Steve and what a great looking motor ;) ATF-U is a great recommendation from Rich, personally I'm favouring all things MaxLife and if you have any transmission concerns I would check out the posts below before diving in and changing your ATF ;)

 

 

 

 

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Welcome aboard Steve! Carlube ATF-U  is an excellent fluid for the gearbox, i use it in all 3 of my cars and i know Stu has used it extensively with good results too! ;)

 

I like the alternative wheels, quite into that myself as finding wheels for my beasts that haven't been battered to Helen Back is almost impossible! In the end i went for Volvo wheels for my 827 coupe - if it fits, works, looks good and you like it, don't knock it!

 

There's plenty of helpful advice on here although i've a feeling you'll be on your own unless you want a ferry trip for any meets/hands-on help as i don't think there are any other members in your neck of the woods.

 

Definitely a nice looking car!

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Welcome Steve to the wonderful world of the superb Accord Coupe, made in Ohio, USA.  You're in the right place for all things coupe/Honda related, don't hesitate to ask anything, we're all coupe owners and we're a friendly bunch.  Some members have the lovely Legend and the Honda engined Sterling too and there's a wealth of information, have a good browse around the site. 

Welcome again!  ;)

 

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On 21/01/2016 at 8:37 PM, Steve in Ireland said:

Just acquired this beauty from Portadown - 117k, slightly ropey service history and needs a bit of fettling, but everything works and seems to go well.  First job is going to be changing the gearbox oil.

Hello. Nice colour - ~I haven't seen one like that before. 

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15 minutes ago, welland99 said:

Thinking about it - it's a shame that the headlamp washers are not matching the bodywork. 

I know what you mean :huh: they are all are like that though, American models didn't have them as its an European add-on, less noticeable on a darker colour cars though ;)  least the lighter coloured coupes have colour coded screen washer jets ^_^

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Odd that the darker coloured cars didn't have colour coded washer jets? Kind of one rule for one colour and another rule for a different colour. :wacko:

 

Looking again at the colour and thinking about it more, it's very like the fabled and very rare Rover 800 colour known as Amethyst. As Rover and Honda shared a lot of paint colours, i wonder if they "revived" this colour for the Accord coupe?

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Belated welcome Steve. Nice colour, your car, and I really like the wheels.

Does anyone know how many colours were available?  I've noticed (1) dark green, (2) blue, (3) black, (4) bright red, (5) silver, (6) whatever colour Steve's is called, (7) pale gold, (8) what I call 'plum'.  Were there any others?

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Mine is a lovely blackcurrant purple.  In the sun especially, from a distance, it looks almost black but when the sun catches it and you're close up, it's a lovely pearlescent purple.  I used to have a 6th Gen in Nighthawk Black and that was a lovely colour too. 

I think the gold ones are the rarer coupe colour, I stand to be corrected.  ;)

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Funnily enough i've just been out to the shop and while i was waiting to pull out of the lay-by i parked in, what went by but a "65" plate white Accord V6 coupé? Handlebars were on the wrong side admittedly but it was definitely the latest gen model and a V6 too! Lucky burger! ;):D

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Sadly starting to think I have bought a problem.  Despite two transmission oil changes so far the gear change is still very lurchy between first and second so think the clutch pack for first and second at least is worn.  The oil that came out on the first change was pretty dirty as well, so seems to have suffered a bit of neglect.  Will do another partial change but think a gearbox rebuild will be needed.  A local well recommended auto specialist is quoting about 2 grand for a full rebuild, which sadly doesn't really make financial sense on a car that cost me 1200 and is worth 1500 at best.  Tempted to try and get the parts and rebuild the gearbox myself, but will see.  I guess running it with worn clutch packs will only do more damage as there is likely metal on metal contact going on in the clutch packs if the friction plates are badly worn as I expect.

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That's a shame Steve - i don't know if it's spoken for but i think Stu has a gearbox in "Project Break" that is good. A couple of thoughts come to mind first though :

 

1) What ATF did you use for your changes?

2) Are you losing any coolant?

3) Have you reset the EAT ECU? It could be "remembering" the jerky change pattern and subjecting you to it even now the problem is gone/going. Resetting it will mean it "learns" the shift pattern again and should be smoother - should also be livelier as well.

There are 3 methods of resetting the EAT ECU - first is with a reset tool, Stu can explain that, second is remove the EAT ECU fuse for 30 seconds or so and third is disconnect the battery for a minute or two.

To give you some idea which fuse you're looking for, this is the underbonnet fusebox on my Rovers, fairly sure the Accord V6 is pretty similar. On mine it is Fuse "S", if you can find the right one it might be worth trying that before condemning the box :

 

UBFusebox.jpg

 

Fingers crossed for you anyway!

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That is a shame, but as Dave rightly pointed out the transmission control unit can give you a false impression, so I would give it a least 50 miles of learning time :rolleyes: sometimes it can take 200 miles if excessive wear is present or simply a low pressure condition.

For example when I first purchased my coupe the fluid was cherry red an shifted fine but nevertheless it was overdue due to the mileage and age of the fluid. So when I replaced the fluid the first time (Honda ATF Z1) the gearbox started behaving erratically and shifted hard sometimes :huh: so I proceeded to do a second fluid change no change and then a third and it got worse :o then I consulted the workshop procedure and this transmission control system operated differently to the UK version ^_^ of which I was more accustom to at the time. So I left the battery off overnight and things started to improve a little but not great, so I got my scanner tool out and reset everything and its driven like new ever since even with frequent fluid changes I haven't always needed reset the unit ;)

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Thank for the help.  Using Millers Millermatic ATF SPIII-WS which is supposed to be equivalent to Honda ATF Z1. Coolant level seems fine so don't think the transmission cooler is leaking.

Haven't tried resetting the transmission control unit - will do that.  Just read so many stories from the US on the web describing the symptoms of worn clutch packs that had resigned myself to it being that problem.  Will do another change and leave the battery disconnected overnight and see how she goes.

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Well to update how I am getting on, just done my second oil transmission oil change using the Carlube ATF-U (after three changes using Millers ATF and around 200 miles after my first change on ATF-U) and sadly not a lot of improvement.  Gear changes between first and second are still very harsh at times, giving a real kick sometimes, and sometimes can feel slipping when changing from second to third.  It seems worse when the engine is cold.  I left the battery disconnected for two days to try and reset the transmission PCM but seemed to make no difference. On the latest change the oil came out fairly black again, which noticeable black particles in it, presumably from the clutch plates in the torque converter or the clutch packs?  Will do another 100 miles or so and a final oil change to see if things improve, but not too optimistic.  Other than the transmission issues the engine is really strong and smooth and rides lovely once up to speed and the gear changes between third and fourth seem fine.  It is just around town when the transmission issues make for a less than relaxing drive.  Starting to consider parting with her before the gearbox dies altogether, but will do one more change before making my mind up.

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