Accord Coupe CG2-CG4 Correct Headlight Bulbs "REPLACE"

[hughezee]

Most motor factors, eBay sellers even euro car parts list the Accord Coupe bulbs incorrectly, so be warned, especially if your considering a HID or LED upgrade kit at any point

As illustrated below no2 is a HB3 (12V 60W)  Honda p/n: 33115SH3A01 and no3 is a HB4 (12V 51W) Honda p/n: 33116S84A01  no6 is a standard 194 bulb (12V 5W) Honda p/n: 33301SA0741 and finally no7 is a standard FR bulb (12V 21W) Honda p/n: 33301S04004

Be careful when fitting the HB3/4 bulbs and not to mix them up "Easily Done" as its a very snug fitment so the headlight adjustment position could be effected or worse you could damage the housing  



Never force the bulb check you have the correct bulb and then rub some HT grease on the bulbs plastic twist fitting

[Cryistic]

Are these bulbs ok to use?

 

http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Honda_Accord+Coupe_3.0_1999/p/car-parts/car-electrics-and-car-lighting/lighting1/car-bulb/?48177022N&1&9a9bc1815a60beb2fc310e519da4f77aca9cba6d&000384

Scrub that ECP got the wrong part again, how suprising

going to go for these

http://www.amazon.co.uk/OSRAM-NIGHT-BREAKER-UNLIMITED-Headlight/dp/B00FQ8ANTE/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1417423847&sr=1-1&keywords=hb4+nightbreaker

[hughezee]

Purple haze has them fitted already, not that I will swap them over at all I personally use power bulbs allot, they send you discounts regularly + super fast shipping and have never had any problems unlike euro and eBay supplied bulbs which don't seem to last long probably because the way they are handled before and during shipping 

 

Link for reference http://www.powerbulbs.com/store/category/car-bulbs/fitting/hb4-9006

[Cryistic]

Purple haze has them fitted already, not that I will swap them over at all I personally use power bulbs allot, they send you discounts regularly + super fast shipping and have never had any problems unlike euro and eBay supplied bulbs which don't seem to last long probably because the way they are handled before and during shipping 

 

Link for reference http://www.powerbulbs.com/store/category/car-bulbs/fitting/hb4-9006

 

Top service from Power Bulbs, turned up within 2 days.

 

I fitted them yesterday, needed to readjust the passenger side after an ominous clunk, but everything seems fine at the moment, just a lot brighter.

[hughezee]

Power bulbs 25% OFF if anybody fancy's an upgrade over the standard 98-02 coupe bulbs    project purple haze had some OSRAM Night Breaker Unlimited HB3 and they looked pretty good

 

Main/High Beam:  http://www.powerbulbs.com/store/category/car-bulbs/fitting/hb3-9005

Dipped/Low Beam: http://www.powerbulbs.com/store/category/car-bulbs/fitting/hb4-9006

 

Happy motoring folks

[Mazda Man]

Power bulbs 25% OFF if anybody fancy's an upgrade over the standard 98-02 coupe bulbs    project purple haze had some OSRAM Night Breaker Unlimited HB3 high beams and they looked pretty good

 

Main/High Beam:  http://www.powerbulbs.com/store/category/car-bulbs/fitting/hb3-9005

Dipped/Low Beam: http://www.powerbulbs.com/store/category/car-bulbs/fitting/hb4-9006

 

Happy motoring folks

 

I've not driven Purple in the dark yet, although when I picked him up and switched the headlights on they were a nice bright blue.  I must take him out in the dark one night and see them in use, I'll think of an excuse to 'pop to Asda to get a loaf'. 

 

Stu - So are these OSRAM bulbs the main headlight bulbs or just the high beam? 

[hughezee]

TBH think you you have high and low night breakers not 100% I just checked they worked OK and saw something in the paperwork basically the previous owner put them in I believe, the guy Richie purchased if from

[Mazda Man]

TBH think you you have high and low night breakers not 100% I just checked they worked OK and saw something in the paperwork basically the previous owner put them in I believe, the guy Richie purchased if from

 

Sweet.  I'll check the paperwork when I have a mo, might not be tonight though as I've got an online psychometric test to do when I get home!  

[Graymalkin]

The osrams are on my birthday wish list.  Starting with dipped beams. The dipped beams on the honda are no where near as good as on the Peugeot. But full beam is way better than the Peugeot. 

Hoping my wife picks them off my Amazon wish list. 

[Mazda Man]

I think having upgraded bulbs is wise, far better light dispersal and they look cool too. 

[hughezee]

Alternatively you could go a step up chaps check this topic: http://honda6.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/270-hid-lights/

[Graymalkin]

Alternatively you could go a step up chaps check this topic: http://honda6.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/270-hid-lights/

My wife would say you were leading me astray!

I had never considered HIDs cos... well being totally uneducated it just seemed to add a new level of complexity to what is a very straight forward situation of bulbs that you just swap.

So is there a down side to HIDS?

[hughezee]

Replied to the relevant topic buddy, but I went back to standard bulbs for moment as the saying goes you get what you pay for

[Graymalkin]

Osram nightbreakers are here....

Still in the box as I have just taken a look at the position of the low beam bulb!!!!

Passenger side its right behind the airfilter and air intake. Absolutely no room.

Drivers side not so bad. But the bulb holder not budging and I don't want to break it.

I feel like a total amateur now lol arrrghhhhhhhh

[Mazda Man]

Yep, unless you're Warwick Davis, it's a tight old fit.  Firstly, don't force anything.  Perhaps it's easier to remove the airfilter and intake??

[welland99]

Noticed that my LHS dip beam bulb has blown yesterday.? 

ECP are listing only H7, but in this thread it says I need HB4. From what has been written, I assume that H7 and HB4 are different?

[hughezee]

Noticed that my LHS dip beam bulb has blown yesterday.? 

ECP are listing only H7, but in this thread it says I need HB4. From what has been written, I assume that H7 and HB4 are different?

H7 is for the 98-02 UK accord m8y, two very different bulbs

[welland99]

Thanks. 

I see that there are a lot of LED bulbs around, like this one:  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-Pcs-HB4-9006-68-SMD-LED-White-Car-Fog-Day-Light-Bulb-Lamp-12V-New-/271104633365?hash=item3f1f186a15:g:6LsAAOSwpDdVeSzG

Can these be used as a direct replacement for standard bulbs, and are they any good?  Has anybody tried them?

[welland99]

There's another interesting and confusing angle to buying headlight bulbs - brightness.  Some of them claim to be brighter than standard (eg 80W), and say that they are not road legal.  Others claim to be brighter too (eg Osram night breaker), and don't say if they are road legal (but one assumes that they are road legal). 

So, against what criteria are bulbs judged to be road legal?  Is it to do with the power consumption (55W / 80W, etc), or is it to do with brightness (lumens)?  None of the bulbs advertise their brightness, though some claim 10% extra brightness, 20% extra brightness, etc  - but what is the baseline?

The main difference specified seems to be the temperature, which influences the colour tint, (eg 4000K, 6000K). 

This seems to be like buying dry cell batteries (AA, AAA, etc) - they all claim to be "extra power", "super power", "long life", "heavy duty", etc, but there's never any specification of how good they really are.  And we all know that there is a vast difference in how long these batteries last. 

[hughezee]

The way I see it the brighter the bulbs claim to be the shorter the life of the bulb  that's if your comparing a standard Osram bulb to there superior output night breaker and people using night breakers don't seem to have MOT refusals on them.

Also I have never tried the LED versions of the HB4 although member Dave has had some success with his Jeep using LED'S check out this topic: http://honda6.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/3138-my-new-project/&page=5

The kelvin light scale is in fact temperature appearance of the light and  xenon bulbs blue in colour should be OK providing the output light is white as claimed higher output bulbs the light is blue but this will likely fail an MOT as a result if the colour rather than the output if you get me.

[Laird_Scooby]

Just to clarify Stu - the bulbs i've had most success in the Jeep with for forward vision are the Ring 100/80W (100W dipped beam, 80W main) filament (traditional) bulbs filled with Xenon gas and a blue coating on the bulb envelope. The Xenon gas glows brighter than standard Halogen (although chemically it is still one of the halogens) and the blue coating helps reduce transmitted UV radiation from the blub which prolongs the life of plastic lenses.

 

In many ways my efforts with the Jeep headlights could be of interest to Retro Rich and any others running older Honda/Triumph models as they all use the same basic headlight.

 

Generally speaking, the brighter the bulb, the shorter the lifespan for the simple reason the glass envelope is the same size give or take. Producing twice as much heat from a bulb twice as bright will shorten the life as it heats the filament up that much more.

[welland99]

I used my tablet to post a reply here last night, but just noticed that it's not here.  I wonder if i posted in the wrong thread by mistake?

[Laird_Scooby]

I've had that a few times when using either my laptop or tablet and for some reason the wifi has dropped out. If you double click (or double tap) in the posting box (where i'm typing this now before clicking "Submit Reply") you should get the post back that you made, or at least most of it as it auto-saves.

 

Hopefully that's the answer for you?

[welland99]

Just to clarify Stu - the bulbs i've had most success in the Jeep with for forward vision are the Ring 100/80W (100W dipped beam, 80W main) filament (traditional) bulbs

About 20 years ago, I remember fitting bulbs of this wattage to one of my first cars - an old escort.  I remember thinking that they did seem brighter than the old ones. 

My recollection is that the bulbs were legal in my car, but would not have been legal in newer cars.  Is anybody up to speed with the regulations for bulb brightness (which seem to be measured in watts, not lumens for some strange reason)

Generally speaking, the brighter the bulb, the shorter the lifespan for the simple reason the glass envelope is the same size give or take. Producing twice as much heat from a bulb twice as bright will shorten the life as it heats the filament up that much more.

I understand your point about heat shortening the life of a bulb.  But, if the heat is a function of electrical power consumption (not brightness), does this point hold when the brightness increase is as a result of different filler gas, (eg xenon) or different technology (eg LEDs)? 

I have decided to purchase some xenon-filled bulbs which i hope to get tomorrow:  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HB4-Philips-Vision-30-Xenon-Bulbs-pair-/141867194766?

[Laird_Scooby]

If your headlamps are "E" marked (and almost all from about 1983 i think it was will be) then the maximum legal wattage for road use is 60W dipped and 55W main, hence the standard H4 headlamp bulb fitted to the amjority of the car parc up to about 2000 ish is rated as 60/55W and all other single filament headlamp (fog and driving lamp bulbs too) are 55W.

Generally a 55W halogen bulb will produce between 1200-1600Lm (Lumen) and i think up to 2000Lm is permissible for headlamp bulbs. The 100/80W bulbs i fitted are technically illegal for road use but the headlamps are so bad on the Jeep (and anything else that uses the same light units - Ford Probe, 1980s Toyotas, Hondas, Nissans, etc) that even with the 100/80s, they are still dimmer on dipped beam than my 827s which have 60/55W Xenon blue bulbs in. Full beam is a similar story and i can only see where i'm going above 40mph at night due to the fact i've fitted a pair of driving lamps with 55W bulbs. Tempted though i am to stuff a pair of 100W bulbs in the driving lamps, it really isn't necessary as they light up the road like daylight.

Interesting point about using the gas to make the bulbs brighter and you're correct in thinking that using the gas to produce it will in fact slightly prolong the life of an otherwise standard bulb as the extra light energy produced byh the gas has to come from somewhere and it comes from cooling the filament slightly. In practice the difference in lifespan will probably be negligible and it's difficult to measure exactly, unless you fit an hour counter to your headlight bulbs.

You mention LEDs and generally speaking, LEDs will last forever as they produce very little heat. However, as the power goes up, so will the heat and i don't belive the technology is available to the general public yet to upgrade traditional headlamps with LED bulbs. That said chaging the complete light unit for LED headlamps is an option for some.

 

Good choice on the Philips bulbs too - i've not tried them mainly because of cost and you got them for a great price but have heard many good things about them - let us know how you get on with them?