Moderators PTR200S Posted October 10, 2019 Moderators Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 Decided to change the rear lighting on the Elysion from standard bulbs to LED, two of the originals are out and have black coloured glass. Bought a number of them from Horizon LED ltd...bought from there before and usually pretty good. Changed the two tail light T10 / 501 bulbs for some high intensity red ones, the brake / tail bulbs got dual working T20 red ones, the fog light got a red T20, the reversing light got a high power T20 in pure white and the indicators got some T20 amber units.... Everything working fine EXCEPT the indicator ones, not a peep out of them, or even a flash 🙄 Can't work out why except that maybe the flasher unit is not getting enough ampage draw from the low wattage... now waiting with breath held for Horizon to come back to me re the query....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Laird_Scooby Posted October 10, 2019 Moderators Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, PTR200S said: Everything working fine EXCEPT the indicator ones, not a peep out of them, or even a flash 🙄 Can't work out why except that maybe the flasher unit is not getting enough ampage draw from the low wattage... Easy way to prove it Pete, refit the original filament bulbs and run a pair of jumper wires to the new LED builbs. If they flash in sympathy with the indicators then it gives you a starting point. Has yours got CANBus on it? Also have you tried refitting the LED bulbs the other way round? Many are polarity conscious so won't work the "wrong" way round. Pull the bulb out, rotate 180 degrees and refit then try. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PTR200S Posted October 10, 2019 Author Moderators Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 40 minutes ago, Laird_Scooby said: Has yours got CANBus on it? Also have you tried refitting the LED bulbs the other way round? Many are polarity conscious so won't work the "wrong" way round. Pull the bulb out, rotate 180 degrees and refit then try. No Canbus, everything else works with no warning lights on the dash... and with the trailer connected too, no problem. Yep been all over them trying in different sockets, retesting with original bulbs etc.... Good point on the parallel running, give that a go at the weekend. p.s. you do know Stu is going to do one on this LED stuff !!😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PTR200S Posted October 10, 2019 Author Moderators Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 Here are the new rear LED lights !! bright or what !!! and that is just the tailights, no brake light lit!! These front LED sidelights were already fitted when I got the van.. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founding Member Brett Posted October 10, 2019 Founding Member Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 Looks great bud. As for your indicators Iv seen this on type accord and I’m sure you need to put a resistor in to get them to work . Jav did the mod years ago on TA 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PTR200S Posted October 10, 2019 Author Moderators Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 51 minutes ago, Brett said: Looks great bud. As for your indicators Iv seen this on type accord and I’m sure you need to put a resistor in to get them to work . Jav did the mod years ago on TA Thanks for that, Jav is, or was, in Horizon? Will look on TA, been a while since I logged into there ....since I sold my Tourer 😭 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Laird_Scooby Posted October 10, 2019 Moderators Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 Dummy load resistors are one option, a better one is an electronic flasher relay. Under a tenner, one out, t'other in, job done! Have you run a pair of wires straight to the LED indicator bulbs to make sure they do in fact work so you're not chasing your tail? If you go the resistor route, i think i have a spare pair of dummy load resistors floating around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founding Member Brett Posted October 10, 2019 Founding Member Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, PTR200S said: Thanks for that, Jav is, or was, in Horizon? Will look on TA, been a while since I logged into there ....since I sold my Tourer 😭 That’s the one Pete Jav runs horizon or did start up the business. I will log in tomorrow as well to see if I can find a link to the resistors or diodes can’t remember what ones were needed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Laird_Scooby Posted October 10, 2019 Moderators Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 https://www.classiccarleds.co.uk/collections/indicator-bulbs/products/2-x-50w-6ohm-led-indicator-ballast-resistors-fix-hyper-flash-turn-signal Resistors ^^^^^ https://www.classiccarleds.co.uk/products/12v-electronic-indicator-flasher-relay-for-classic-cars-with-oe-clicking-sound The Electronic Flasher relay i used instead ^^^^^ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PTR200S Posted October 10, 2019 Author Moderators Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 Looks like I can't use resistors as the heat build up can't get out of the area the units will be in. There are however, canbus units that may get me around the problem, 11.99 each though !!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Laird_Scooby Posted October 10, 2019 Moderators Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 First thing to do is try the bulbs to make sure they actually work Pete. If so, an electronic flasher relay would be cheaper than CANBus bulbs and give a definite fix. Need to check the pin-out on your existing one though, it may be different to the one i used. It's also capable of running the trailer indicators too. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founding Member Brett Posted October 11, 2019 Founding Member Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 This is a link and photo from Type Accord. The link you might have to log in as its in the members section. http://typeaccord.co.uk/forum/topic/16193-accord-full-led-conversion-bulb-guide-courtesy-of-wwwhorizonledscouk/ 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PTR200S Posted October 13, 2019 Author Moderators Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 excellent, cheers Brett 🙂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TANNERS Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 I've had a little look and it appears I need alot of 501s for the interior led upgrade.... I've ordered some more expensive warranted ones. As I've bought cheaper ones in the past and they start flickering within a couple of weeks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st123 Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 Got mine from ABD £21 for the lot easy to fit, get yourself some plastic tools to take the cover off or you will break them 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PTR200S Posted July 14, 2020 Author Moderators Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 Yep, I went for better ones too but the thing to watch for is the length of the bulb, not a lot of room in the overheads.....might mean the "push to on" might not work as no room for the lenses to depress inwards. Fit one and carefully try it otherwise you might bust the lenses. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PTR200S Posted July 14, 2020 Author Moderators Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, st123 said: Got mine from ABD £21 for the lot easy to fit, get yourself some plastic tools to take the cover off or you will break them Agreed, be very careful levering them out, I used the plastic trim tools too 👍 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PTR200S Posted July 14, 2020 Author Moderators Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 Sorry about the bad pic, taken with my old phone a couple years back I think but gives you a good idea how bright the LED change over was !! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TANNERS Posted July 15, 2020 Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 On 7/14/2020 at 9:10 PM, PTR200S said: Sorry about the bad pic, taken with my old phone a couple years back I think but gives you a good idea how bright the LED change over was !! How do the switch covers come off to get at the lamp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PTR200S Posted July 16, 2020 Author Moderators Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 They just lever off, there are two locating pins at the top of the lense, lever from the bottom, gently though......assuming its same version as mine...if it seems tight just try from the top to see if it will come off the pins at that point. Think it swings on the pins too for the push to on action so maybe a combo of those actions will help if it feels tight. Part number 8, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PTR200S Posted July 16, 2020 Author Moderators Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 wots this then? 🤪 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st123 Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 where is that from? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PTR200S Posted July 16, 2020 Author Moderators Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 35 minutes ago, st123 said: where is that from? Not a great picture as its has projected onto grass but the interior front door lights can be changed to this...shows red horizontally off the door and projects the "H" down onto the ground at the same time... just a bit of bling fun !🙄 .....my saaaad !!! .......easily reversible to standard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TANNERS Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 On 7/14/2020 at 8:58 PM, PTR200S said: Yep, I went for better ones too but the thing to watch for is the length of the bulb, not a lot of room in the overheads.....might mean the "push to on" might not work as no room for the lenses to depress inwards. Fit one and carefully try it otherwise you might bust the lenses. Ordered.👍tool kit in a case (I need to get on a image hosting site as I'm not used to posting pictures this way). Done the side lights and the puddle lights front. How does the interior roof lights covers come off as it's the switch aswell? #carefully 😂🤣😂🤣😂 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PTR200S Posted July 17, 2020 Author Moderators Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 16 hours ago, TANNERS said: . How does the interior roof lights covers come off as it's the switch aswell? #carefully 😂🤣😂🤣😂 !!! Gently !!!! ........and carefully 😄 !!!!!!!! Have to check but I think it's the back edge, couple of recess in there to poke your screwdriver in....erm, carefully !!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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