Moderators PTR200S Posted February 22, 2019 Moderators Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 Today was a tough day for Elly, she had to transport just short of a half tonne of bagged (nominal weight 25kg a bag) sand.... and the sand was wet so it may have weighed more than that..... yes its dirty too!!! No problem with power and no handling issues to report as such but it did look a little low in the water ! Loaded with sand , approx half a tonne. Unloaded There doesn't seem to be any carrying capacity weight posted on the vehicle anywhere that I can see ...long shot I know but anyone seen any weight specs on any articles or website anywhere? Have checked a few websites but as usual a number of standard specification are quoted incorrectly so I don't trust them to give me the carrying capacity. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators hughezee Posted March 19, 2019 Administrators Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Finally got some info from Honda on this and they suggested the Eylsion has a max towing capacity 800kg... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PTR200S Posted March 20, 2019 Author Moderators Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 5 hours ago, hughezee said: Finally got some info from Honda on this and they suggested the Eylsion has a max towing capacity 800kg... Blimey, that's a bit piss poor for a TOWING capacity!!!! Not even enough to tow a plastic TVR !!!! I could go with that as a CARRYING capacity, 8 people weighing around maximum of 16 stones including their luggage.though. The Odyssey will supposedly pull 1600kg but is plated whereas the Elysion does not have any weights stamped on the vin plate.... technically, as i understand it now, because of this it is not legal to tow at all ! That said there is a lot of Japanese stuff here in the UK, none of which is apparently legal to tow so much as a wheel barrow !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founding Member Brett Posted March 20, 2019 Founding Member Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 Is it an Auto by any chance. If so Honda towing capacity is very low as Auto boxes do get hotter than manual. Its the same for mine and the 7th gen Accord. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators hughezee Posted March 20, 2019 Administrators Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 59 minutes ago, Brett said: Is it an Auto by any chance. If so Honda towing capacity is very low as Auto boxes do get hotter than manual. Its the same for mine and the 7th gen Accord. Weasel auto vs weasel manual 600kg less for the auto although both petrol auto, manual is the same towing capacity, the Elysion is almost 2 tonnes so its mainly due to the number of people it can potentially carry, the majority of people carriers have lower towing capacities... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Laird_Scooby Posted March 21, 2019 Moderators Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 hours ago, hughezee said: the majority of people carriers have lower towing capacities.. Something to do with maximum train weight perhaps? Or maybe they think if you need to tow something, the interior is already full of bodies and luggage so they don't want to over-stress/overheat the gearbox. There used to be a school of thought that maximum trailer weight shouldn't be more than 75% of the Kerb weight of the tow vehicle although that seems to have fallen by the wayside these days........... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founding Member Brett Posted March 21, 2019 Founding Member Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 Just a thought is that figure for braked trailer or unbraked as this is normally a low weight. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Laird_Scooby Posted March 21, 2019 Moderators Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 18 minutes ago, Brett said: Just a thought is that figure for braked trailer or unbraked as this is normally a low weight. Maximum weight of an unbraked trailer is 750kg Brett but that's as defined by law, rather than any manufacturers on their towing limits. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators hughezee Posted March 21, 2019 Administrators Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Brett said: Just a thought is that figure for braked trailer or unbraked as this is normally a low weight. 800kg braked On 3/19/2019 at 11:36 PM, hughezee said: Eylsion has a max towing capacity 800kg 500kg unbraked 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PTR200S Posted March 21, 2019 Author Moderators Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 Got a braked 8x4 trailer............ have to check the max gross weight..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PTR200S Posted September 22, 2019 Author Moderators Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 I am no further on with this problem and I really needed to have a trailer this week so I will have to chase the towbar options. Watling Towbars will supply and fit at their St Albans depot but it's too far for me to travel to and then wait to get it fitted. Anyone used Watling or indeed know if they supply bars to other fitting agencies? If they can supply I can fit it but apparently there is some chassis mods to do... I know not what though, as yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Laird_Scooby Posted September 22, 2019 Moderators Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 Is driving down one night, staying in a Travelodge or similar, getting it fitted next day then either staying the next night before or just driving home not an option Pete? Have to say though, i'd ask about the chassis mods before you book it in. It might be that when you find out what they are, you may not want it fitted after all! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators hughezee Posted September 22, 2019 Administrators Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 I'm still in the market for a towbar on the odyssey and have given up for the time being.😑 Another thing to consider Pete is your motor looks lowered which might be an issue for some installers? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PTR200S Posted September 23, 2019 Author Moderators Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 17 hours ago, hughezee said: I'm still in the market for a towbar on the odyssey and have given up for the time being.😑 Another thing to consider Pete is your motor looks lowered which might be an issue for some installers? Watling do towbars for the Oddy 😄 Good point on the lowered aspect, its not that low but you are right, could be a problem...need to investigate the chassis mod possibility as Dave say though, too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founding Member PaulS Posted September 24, 2019 Founding Member Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 Dont know if it will help but P F Jones in Manchester does a very good range of towbars and seems to be able to get stuff not in stock.... Have a look at their website and if interested, give them a call.... At least Manchester is nearer to you than St albans...... http://www.pfjones.co.uk 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PTR200S Posted September 24, 2019 Author Moderators Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 Unfortunately they are another company with a database that doesn't include the Elysion or can even recognise the registration plate !!! Its pretty tricky getting any info for the Elysion although it is improving with some companies over the last few months. I will give Jones a call anyway, thanks Paul. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PTR200S Posted September 26, 2019 Author Moderators Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 Quick update, Can't get a bar locally, looks like the only one that makes them at the moment is Watling Towbars in St Albans. Spoke to a very nice person at Watling, Jackie, very helpful indeed and after asking re chassis modifications she said that no major mods are required but would send the install specs and drawings for me to view.😃 Within a couple of minutes I had said info (email is a marvellous new fangled thing!)and the only mods appear to be enlarging holes in the main chassis and drilling a couple of other holes plus a mod on the lower edge of the bumper. She also sent two company recommendations for fitting in my area !!! Excellent service.!! Just looking at the steelwork and mods its something than can be done at home, on ramps. I have fitted a lot of towbars over the years so hopefully this should be ok too and therefore I should be able to dispense with the fitting companies. However, if I get stuck then I know I can get help locally now, bonus ! Just got to check the dual exhaust fitment doesn't foul anything and hopefully have one complete kit headed this way 🙂 Total cost of bar, ball/cover,electrics and shipping £231. Expect a blow by blow fitment of the bar on the Elysion Workshop pages ! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Laird_Scooby Posted September 26, 2019 Moderators Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 Hefty looking towbar Pete! Very similar to the one i have for my Volvo! Should be capable of pulling a tree (or house!) down! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PTR200S Posted September 26, 2019 Author Moderators Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 0-60mph will be down half a second with the extra weight !!! 😃 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PTR200S Posted September 28, 2019 Author Moderators Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 Less than 24hrs after ordering this was delivered. 🙂 Packaging a bit dodgy ! On with the job today.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Laird_Scooby Posted September 28, 2019 Moderators Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 Make sure you bolt it tightly to the car Pete - it's already tried making a bid for freedom from the cardboard box! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators hughezee Posted September 28, 2019 Administrators Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 Excellent Pete, I checked out their website and they list the odyssey RA6 so big thanks for that 👍😁 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founding Member PaulS Posted September 28, 2019 Founding Member Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 Glad you are sorted.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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