st123 Posted August 22, 2020 Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 Think my starter motor has gone, plenty of life there just won`t turn over, anyone know what uk starter would be compatible? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PTR200S Posted August 22, 2020 Moderators Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 Quite a lot of owners have reported starters that have failed but usually on the 2.4 motors. Have you got the starter out ? Bench tested to be sure it is the starter ? Bit of sideways thinking....is the gearbox lever in park ? ?...if so try wiggling it out of park and back in.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PTR200S Posted August 22, 2020 Moderators Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 The part number on a 2004 V6 is 31200-RKB-004. (Trifoliate) It shows as a 2006 Odyssey, 5speed or a 3 litre Accord (J30A4) too but as a Mitsuba. One in Australia ! does yours look like this ? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Starter-Motor-for-Honda-Accord-Odyssey-V6-eng-J30A1-J30A4-Petrol-3-0L-3-5L-98-07-/123052357748 If you establish its the starter , not another fault like an inhibitor, then a local alternator/starter motor is a good place to go for diagnostic and repair. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st123 Posted August 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 not got the starter out yet, tried the wiggle test with park nothing happened, have to get it recovered first lucky it is only 2 miles down the road, also is it easy to get to on the ely where is it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PTR200S Posted August 22, 2020 Moderators Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 34 minutes ago, st123 said: not got the starter out yet, tried the wiggle test with park nothing happened, have to get it recovered first lucky it is only 2 miles down the road, also is it easy to get to on the ely where is it? Yep, easy access, discon battery and take out, take out lower battery platform, starter is to the left of the lower battery platform at front side of the engine....forward of the auto trans filter housing. Might want to unclip the box that you move to get to dipstick for the transmission dipstick..bit more clearance above the motor. Just discovered that the Mitsuba SM442-42 is also used/suitable replacement....if it turns out to be the starter failure then using the Honda numbers and this Mitsuba number you should be able to get a replacement unit from an automotive factors. Has the starter been playing up before this? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st123 Posted August 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 no it was fine until yesterday, tried starting it would not start then tried again fired up no problem, went down the 2 miles down the rd to the supermarket came out would not start again 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PTR200S Posted August 22, 2020 Moderators Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, st123 said: went down the 2 miles down the rd to the supermarket should have gone on the bicycle !!! (local council option!) Let us know how you get on, sorry can't really help much further at this stage. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st123 Posted August 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 thanks for the info, hopefully up and running by next week sometime 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Laird_Scooby Posted August 23, 2020 Moderators Report Share Posted August 23, 2020 Slight variation on what Pete suggested, turn the key to the start position and hold it there then try moving the selector lever sideways left and right in the P position. If the Ely has the "Park lock" feature so the key can only be removed in P this may work, the fact there are two separate mechansims fitted on the P sector of the quadrant means they sometimes interfere with each other. If this works, you have a work-around until such time as you can find the adjustment data to compensate for the wear in the mechanism(s) without the expense of a new starter motor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st123 Posted August 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 thanks tried that no joy, i locked the doors when i put it in drive to see if they unlocked when in park and they did so i think it is the starter or maybe a fuse, it is getting recovered today so will know more later 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Laird_Scooby Posted August 24, 2020 Moderators Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 Why lock the doors? 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st123 Posted August 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 when it goes into park the doors unlock on mine so i know park is working 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st123 Posted August 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 just had this from cox honda We can get hold of a genuine Honda one for £852.40 or a remanufactured Denso one for £396.40 Kind Regards, Joe Woods Sales Advisor 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Laird_Scooby Posted August 24, 2020 Moderators Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 15 minutes ago, st123 said: when it goes into park the doors unlock on mine so i know park is working You only know that part of the switch is working. I don't know the exact system they've used on the Ely but if it has park-lock it means you can't remove the ignition key from the ignition switch unless it is in P, likewise you can't move out of P unless the key is in. 17 minutes ago, st123 said: just had this from cox honda We can get hold of a genuine Honda one for £852.40 or a remanufactured Denso one for £396.40 They're having a laugh aren't they? You definitely need to be sure the starter is at fault before shelling out that much! Have you fed the solenoid energise terminal direct from the abttery? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st123 Posted August 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 yes done that not moving, under warranty anyway up to £500 so will go for the denso one, just waiting for the garage to get back to me 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Laird_Scooby Posted August 24, 2020 Moderators Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 The Denso one should be fine, they don't make sh!t or even remanufacture it so should be as good as a new Mitsuba, possibly better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st123 Posted August 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 from amayama : MOTOR ASSY., STARTER (SM-44242-4G) Genuine Honda (31200RKB004) 31200-RKB-004 Weight 3.47 kgs Catalog MOTOR ASSY., STARTER (SM-44242-4G) From Price, GBP 540.71 Shipping cost to 58.00 United Kingdom Delivered to you by Availability Japan540.7158.1802 - 05 Sep>1 This part may fit to For reference only. We're not guarantee 100% compatibility. Brand Honda Model Accord Elysion Inspire Odyssey Chassis DBA-RR3 DBA-RR4 DBA-UC1 Engine J30A4 K20A7 K20A8 K24A4 K24A8 J30A J35A6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PTR200S Posted August 24, 2020 Moderators Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 Amayama, 442 42 is mitsuba so should be good but as said Denso will be just fine. Be interesting to see if the old one is an original honda unit and is it the solenoid or the actual starter windings that have failed.... Is the 500 quid warranty including labour ? Worth exploring a repair at an auto repair shop 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st123 Posted August 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 yes inc labour 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st123 Posted August 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 not a sight i want to see again 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Laird_Scooby Posted August 25, 2020 Moderators Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 1 hour ago, st123 said: not a sight i want to see again On the upside, think of the petrol you'll save! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st123 Posted August 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 yes what am i going to do with the £40 per week saving !! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Laird_Scooby Posted August 25, 2020 Moderators Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 Good question! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PTR200S Posted August 26, 2020 Moderators Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 11 hours ago, st123 said: yes what am i going to do with the £40 per week saving !! I am using fuel at an average rate of 24mpg, all short trip, round town stuff...really kills the mpg 😭 Save the £40 per week up, for your insurance ! 🙃...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PTR200S Posted August 26, 2020 Moderators Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 15 hours ago, st123 said: not a sight i want to see again Handsome beasts though ! 😎 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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