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As always I think Dave is right it needs all that looking at, as I said a complete rebuild but it seems as if you have had it all done with new bits and , as Dave says, it may be that its been assembled incorrectly.....something is definitely not right and it wants a good , careful, logical look at, based on the diagram Dave posted.

 

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Personally, I would get myself a set of cheap standard size wheels with decent tyres, even if they are not Honda, just as long as they are the correct PCD/ET/Size and fit and see what happens.

If 3 garages have set up the Alignment to spec and it is still doing this then obviously something is happening under stress, ie Driving. And the only thing fitted that is non-standard are the Wheels/Tyres. Sometimes it is the obvious.

If this doesn't fix the problem then I would look deeper, in other words Subframes and Bodyshell.

Good luck. ;)

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Sorry for the absence and lack of update, I can never remember my password when on my smartphone and so have to borrow my wifes laptop as it auto logs in somehow.

This is a pic of the old tyre which was on the front for quite some time after lowering, the inner edge wear lead me to get the alignment done and swap the rears (which had even wear) to the front. So a rear tyre.

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This is a pic of the front tyre (previously rear with even wear) after approx 1500miles after alignment. Shocking. Im thankful it didn't burst on me especially that day I drove a 170mile round trip in the snow!

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As posted before, I discovered the wear when swapped tyres for winter tyres. I posted on here and got lots of great info (thanks!). I didn't manage to get the new drop link in time but I did get to the garage just before they shut. We had the car on ramps and looked at every component on the front end comparing with the diagram posted. We couldn't see anything missing, installed the wrong way round or with excessive wear/play. In fact we couldn't see the 'gouging' of the drop link nut as claimed by a different mechanic (same garage) just the day before. We could just about replicate the sound I was complaining of but just barely. I think I'll get the front drop links re-done again asap just to be sure, but I'll put down the excessive wear to wrong spec wheels.

Anyway, car was untouched and I drove it on my christmas and boxing day trip (not long about 50miles round trip) with my newly fitted winter tyres. They fared well. Only thing was they did rub! On full lock (because of extra width/height of tyres) inner tyre rubbed, and because the wrong offset wheels already stuck out from the arch the top of the wheels rubbed when going over bumps. I just drove extra slow and carefully, was fine.

I then soon after managed to pick up a set of accord type r wheels!!! finally!

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I done the front alignment to stock toe of 0. Steering is tighter (?) and more responsive. The ride quality is about the same as when I had the thick winter tyres on but definitely less harsh than with the low profiles that were originally on. Now I have the correct spec wheels I can also drop the rear but as I'm probably only going to have the car for another 3 months (insurance renewal is then) I don't want to spend more money on it, in fact I am toying with the idea of reverting to stock i.e. refit stock headlights and stock height suspension of the front and sell the bits separately but it is a lot of effort. For now, I'm just going to enjoy the car as is!

 

 

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So...the time has come...inusrance quote gone up by triple (due to that small incident :'() I cant afford that, sad reality. Oh well...such is life, its been fun, really learned alot as well, want to say thank you to everyone who posted and huge thanks to @Laird_Scooby especially as he has always given good tips and detailed explanations, thanks everyone though! I'm definitely less of a noob now haha.

Advert is now on eBay, price is negotiable before anybody baulks at but I hope I get something close, wish me luck! :D 

 

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Sorry to see you're going to pass on custody of your beast, insurance is a pain in the wotsits to put it politely!

I'm guessing this is your ebay ad?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-Accord-3-0i-VTEC-Coupe-2000/123037981199

Good luck with the sale, at least we're moving into a better part of the year for selling cars! I hope it doesn't mean you'll be a stranger on here? Don't forget there are the sections on here for other makes as well! ;):D

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Yes, that's my ad. Hopefully goes to someone that will take care of the bits that need doing. As I knew it would come to this I just had to stop spending on it. I did treat it to nice accord type r rims though! :)

I'll be giving it a nice clean tomorrow and take proper pics for the ad. Weather permitting.

If only it were considered a classic for insurance, it should be! I'd be able to keep it then.

Yes, I'll pop by here once in a while I'm sure, and the facebook page too. The coupe is a car I really fell in love with, in part due to this forum and also its just a great car overall. Am genuinely sad to have to sell it. All the best everyone, and thanks again!!!

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Sorry to "see you go" enjoyed the banter :D and your updates .

Nothing to stop you contributing to the forum though in the future :lol:

I realise everyones circumstances are different, age, location, no claims etc and Insurance sure is a pain but a 3x hike is horrendous... 

I presume you have tried the usual route of the comparison sites, Mustard.co.uk, Confused you will be, Money supermarket, Merkat etc... 

Have you tried the specialist guys like Classiccarline , Peter James, Footman james or Carole Nash? 

If you are over 50 years of age check out Saga.. i am an oldie :rolleyes: in age anyway, :P and now have the Coupe with Saga at 192 quid.

Classiccarline insure my TVR for just over 200...  Maybe worth call if really want to keep the Coupe...

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11 hours ago, kag8 said:

I'll be giving it a nice clean tomorrow and take proper pics for the ad. Weather permitting

I see you've added a couple more photos - are you adding anymore? Some of the interior, underbonnet, boot inside, wheels/tyres etc all help get people looking and interested in the listing.

Also how come you've got blue skies and sunshine in Dunstable this morning? It's horrible and cloudy over my neck of the woods! ;):D

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5 hours ago, PTR200S said:

realise everyones circumstances are different, age, location, no claims etc and Insurance sure is a pain but a 3x hike is horrendous... 

I presume you have tried the usual route of the comparison sites, Mustard.co.uk, Confused you will be, Money supermarket, Merkat etc... 

Have you tried the specialist guys like Classiccarline , Peter James, Footman james or Carole Nash? 

Im 26, live in a crap post code. Had 4 years no claims and was on my way to 5 until that incident, dropped me back to only 2 years.

The insurer i was with were always the cheapest, have a look at the renewal quote (and last years price for comparison):

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Gave them a ring got 100pd knocked off, gee thanks lol.

Spoken to footman james, not a classic they won't quote.

Comparison sites give me even higher quotes. :(

24 minutes ago, Laird_Scooby said:

I see you've added a couple more photos - are you adding anymore? Some of the interior, underbonnet, boot inside, wheels/tyres etc all help get people looking and interested in the listing.

Also how come you've got blue skies and sunshine in Dunstable this morning? It's horrible and cloudy over my neck of the woods! ;):D

The ones I added to the ad are what I could find from past year, not proper photos for a for sale advert as still need to take photos of all the angles and bits you mention, but whilst its pouring down here might as well have these pics up rather than no pics. Even the rims on the pics are wrong, not including those ones but will be going on the type r ones i recently got.

Been a really bad winter this year, i remember last year around this time it was so sunny and warm!

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Jeeeeezzzzzz!!!!! Either your insurers are on drugs or they need to be! :o:o:o

Try Adrian Flux, a friend is with them and about the same age as you, is paying about £600 a year on a Lexus LS430. Granted he has 5 years no claims now but generally speaking, 1st year of NCB is 30%, second 40%, third 50%, 4th 60% and 5th 65% so it's not just the loss of two years NCB, it appears they've loaded you heavily as well.

That said, his postcode isn't much better despite being in Cambridge so could be worth a try. Also try a few other brokers, Pete mentioned a few, buy a copy of Practical Classics, there are loads of classic insurance adverts in the back of it. Also try

https://lancaster-insurance.biz/index-e.php?msclkid=0eb7fc20699a1679b723a696200c756b&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=1. Brand&utm_term=lancaster insurance&utm_content=Brand

There are loads of others around as well, many insurers will list one car as a classic while others don't - just a case of keep trying until you find one.

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Wow!! Dave's right they SHOULD be on drugs (lethal doseage preferably :P) to ask for that sort of insurance premium  !!!!

I know some insurers will insure under "modern classics "  you definitely need to try some smaller specialist brokers.  I hate to think what an expensive car would cost you to insure, feel for you,,......:(

 

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Some insurance companies should not even be in business.

When my car got hit on the rear bumper I had a no fault claim as the other party was at fault.

But when I got my renewal through my premium went up to just under 2k :angry:

I called them and asked WTF and they couldn’t explain the hike in premium.

Shoped around on the comparison sites and got my premium for £275 a bit of difference.

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The whole idea of insurance is to "make you whole again" after an incident. Granted there are T's and C's which mean you have to pay an excess usually but the basic idea is that you shouldn't be out of pocket following any incident, regardless of fault, blame, circumstances etc.

I think it's a hell of a cheek of insurance companies to then load premiums because of a small knock, whether it was the insureds fault or not. That means they get back what they've paid out to make you whole in the first place plus the excess so in simple terms, their product isn't fit for purpose.

Sorry, got my Angry Head on about being ripped off at the moment! :lol:

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Finally got my hands on Kag8's former coupe, boy did it drive like a dog and took me over a week of hard graft to get it into a good drivable condition... ?

Anyway, the new owner Becci (facebook group member) loves the car and this will be her third one, she just couldn't keep away from owning another.

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Hopefully, she will join us real Honda nuts soon and she can share her past present and future with her beloved coupe, last shot from the facebook page how it looks now ?

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Isn't she a beauty. Man i miss her.

Stu its not like I didnt try to take care of her. I actually put alot of effort and funds. It just got to a point where it wasnt feasible for me plus garages here are idiots. If i was closer to u I would have come definitely. Besides Becci loves the car and I didn't charge a stupid price she is happy so im happy.

Becci has made my dreams for this car a reality.

Body kit, exhaust, properly lowered. The rims which i hunted for so many months!!! :( i also considered buying a whole other accord just for the body kit. But Becci did it. Awesome.

If anyone is wondering what I'm driving now. Remember my dream? 1 sports car and motorway cruiser luxury sedan and 1 suv? Well im living that...but 1 car at a time lol.

I couldnt keep the sports car Becci now has. But ive got the LS400. Its a good car. Good community too. Maybe 1 day I'll finally own an SUV or even better all three kinds :)

Obviously the cars in those 3 categories may change haha another excuse to try as many different cars as possible ?

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13 minutes ago, kag8 said:

Stu its not like I didnt try to take care of her. I actually put alot of effort and funds. It just got to a point where it wasnt feasible for me plus garages here are idiots. If i was closer to u I would have come definitely. Besides Becci loves the car and I didn't charge a stupid price she is happy so im happy.

I know m8y not having a pop at you at all just shocked me how much was overlooked and bodged, the previous owner or places you took it too need a slap. Anyway, the gearbox is silky smooth and shifts as it should and I did notice you fitted the recommended oil filter but the oil that was in there was heavily contaminated with foreign particles so what happened there I don't know?

Hope the Lexus is treating you well  ?

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True. Plus having to pay £3k insurance wasnt gon a happen. Else I'd have somehow kept it most likely and probably found time to make the long trip to you!

Surprisingly the LS insurance is much cheaper. I think theres another forum member lucky enough to own both the LS and coupe and he too mentioned insurance was cheaper on the LS :s

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15 hours ago, kag8 said:

Plus having to pay £3k insurance wasnt gon a happen.

Very likely the 1998-2002 accord, in general, is a higher risk in some areas compared with a Lexus some other past members were faced with the ridiculous premiums too. One chap kept his coupe as the insurance was cheaper than his wife's 1.6 Astra in his area ? so they sold the Astra and got another coupe.

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