Thank you Geoff! I love this forum...everyone is super nice and all connected. We sure do love our Honda's. My next is a TL...I stay with Honda. We have many out here but find ways to differientiate. Wow, I can't believe there are less than 400 V6's out there. I would say out here we have more 4s than 6s though...at least from what I see. Either way...we are family! Thank you again for the warm introduction