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17 hours ago, PTR200S said:

The Prestige is a trim level not a different model, I don't think the chassis will have changed on that basis although the front end may have as it got the 3.5 V6....not to sure if the 3 litre had a Prestige version. 

The 2.4 got trim levels of M,G and X with the 3 litre getting VG, VX and VZ plus various styling such as Aero,  VG premium and Navi variations..The Prestige was the top trim level but in all cases there appears to be no major chassis changes that I can see..Emperors New Clothes!!!!!

The Chinese model from about 2012 may well be different though....

If you want to hang upside down under your rear end 🤣🤣🤣 and take a picture of it then I am happy to do the same for comparison purposes only, you understand  !!!!

I see, so while the body work is you could say vastly different, it's not a different model but just trim with ... different panels. What a curiosity that is

I will take off the wheel and post a pic at some point, maybe even today. Of course just to compare and I can take some measurements. But it sounds doable!

Thank you!

Hi

I've contacted Watling to see if they can confirm this will fit Elysion Prestige. I got a response that they weren't aware of this particular model and to check fitting based on the instructions they have.

Do we know if the undercarriage is the same for Prestige? I assume perhaps removing the spare wheel and checking the placement of holes would be the best course of action.

Even if I can’t let them know before we go for our trip, they’ve offered to do a free alignment once I have the parameters, so if you can share those it would still be great. 
 

Should I assume that most people here have their alignment done ‘as good as it can be’ without the garages having the proper specifications? It can’t be that Swindon is so far behind that big names don’t have those at hand 🤣

Does anyone have the correct parameters for setting up tracking in a 3.5 Elysion Prestige? Mine's pulling to the left after new tyres were fitted. First garage gave up as their system has not details for that car. ATS is doing really well in that they researched and can adjust it so that it's 'better' but without the parameters can't get it done exactly right.

So when I bought my Elysion Prestige the seller mentioned ripping CDs to a Hard Drive function. After looking through the manual I found steps to enable that, but when using the Navi system the option to do so wasn't showing up.

You should be able to access the Sound Container settings by pressing down on joystick while in CD playback. Mine only had those 4 options, nothing related to SC.

Or you can have the 2 extra options, but they won't be 'selectable' despite showing

Checking the drive first

I took the drive out partly to see if a) the drive was there b) the drive was not dead c) any formatting issues

Taking the drive out is very simple. Torx-8 screw is required.

While the drive is out, the Sat Nav or Audio won't work until you attach the front cover (which has a metal plate on the back). So even if the drive is taken out you can screw in the cover and the unit will work, although reporting a missing drive.

So the drive was showing as non-formatted, which gave me an idea that there must be a way to initialise it from the unit itself. Turns out even once the drive was working Windows doesn't recognise the file system or the boot record so it shows unitilialised. However, with that idea I went to YT to see how someone does an initialisation on an american Odyssey in English. At least I knew there is such option, now we just need to find it.

At least I knew the drive is not faulty

Sound Container Initialisation

So drive and cover went back in. First off, the maintenance mode.

After getting on the 'Current location', press MAP, MENU and DISPLAY buttons.

You'll see this:

Press down on the joystick to bring up the other menu and select the "SC Initialisation" option. It will be followed by 2 warnings, the right option twice to cofirm.

The system will start formatting. Do not turn off the key into OFF positon (kept mine in the ACCESSORY position all the time.

Once the system reboots, you should have the two options available on the CD playback, after pressing down on joystick. (2 bottom righ options, below REPEAT)

I'll post the config for the Sound Container recording mode later on.

Just for reference, this turned out to be an electrical 'fault' as the 15 Amps fuse was inserted in an incorrect slot. After addressing that, TV works a treat. DVDs have to be Region 2 (Europe just as Japan is Region 2), but .... need to be NTSC coded (unit just spits out a PAL coded DVD). So your regular DVD won't work. I've recorded some of my kids cartoons onto a DVD using free WinX DVD Author, selecting NTSC format, and the unit now recognised them and works fine.

Next challenge. Trying to figure out why the Sound Container function doesn't work. I've just pulled the hard drive out, so looks like I should have it. But when going into options on CD playback I don't get the option to rip the CD.

Let's see if I can get that one resolved and then post here.

https://www.notion.so/Fuse-boxes-layout-9a1f43c8ec0a44ab98f570116640ad17

I've converted the original manual Fuse Boxes diagrams into a HTML format on my Notion.so account. It's available for everyone. It includes the PDF of the original pages, and tables for each of the fuse boxes (and models where different), including the icon, description and translation.

Some translations are vague because it literally will say Backup, Option or Accessory in the manual.

If someone has any updates to make then let me know and I'll edit the document.

Hope it helps someone as much as it helped me!

2 minutes ago, Laird_Scooby said:

Excellent work there and top marks for not giving up!

I HAD to get it working. I was a but disappointed that from the 3 things I could get in my config (Sunroofs or curtain airbags or TV) I had a TV that's not working. So this makes up for not having the other ones. Kids will be happy and quiet too during the 16h journey we're about to make.

I'm really pleased

Solved!

Looking at the fusebox diagram for the engine bay right box, fuse 15 (Rear Entertainment System) is a 15A. Checking the box, there was a fuse in 14 where there should't be anything, but 15 was empty. Moved that and voila.

Rear TV button on the dash now works, TV and DVD work. Can only play one DVD in the right format that came with the car (Mr. Bean) so will need to figure out recording in NTSC I presume for some cartoon for the kids.

I'll post the fuses listings later for others as someone may find it helpful.

Enjoy your camping trip. I'd love to go for one, but my kids are still too young for this. But hopefully we'll have the Elysion with us for many years to come, and we'll make good use of it for family trips.

Can't see the plug as it's all built up into the central armrest and roof. But, I actually did find a fuse layout in the book and a rear entertainmnent system reference. Will try that and report back soon.

Very helpful. I can understand now what's needed to get this done. We're going on holidays in 2 weeks so this will be a test of do we need the extra capacity for the next time. If we do, this whole thread with the pics and parts to use will be a very good guide on achieving this.

Thanks @BoMar and @Adibee

13 minutes ago, Adibee said:

I've put a few pics on imgur, but when I try to insert the gallery here it the url box turns red and nothing happens... can you only post one picture per post? Where am I going wrong? 🤣

The url you're entering from Imgur isn't the actual image url but rather the page displaying it. When you're in your account's images and viewing one, you need to copy the 'Direct Link'.

5 minutes ago, Adibee said:

I do have some pics, but how do I add them? ☺

Get yourself and http://imgur.com/ account and upload there, then insert from URL on the forum. It's weired that we don't have a 'add image from computer' button. Or email them to me if you want, and I can upload to this thread for you

Ok I'll be interested to know about the plates that you had to fabricate. What did you get a photos of how it ended up looking would be great :)

12 hours ago, hughezee said:

What you looking for m8y? blown fuses are easy to find 😋

My rear TV or DVD aren't working at all. So wondering if it's a blown fuse at this point, but not sure which one. Some video on YT shows Odyssey and a 7.5A fuse, but there's a few of those in Elysion. I don't want to just start taking out each fuse until I find the right one.  

Anyone has layouts for the 2 fuseboxes? Some are marked on the covers, but most have the 'manual' icon. I can't see anything in the manual.

Apple Carplay is pretty much all I will need as that will give me navigation and Spotify plus DAB etc. Some units have 2 video inputs so I assume it would even be possible to feed the front bumper cameras too. I'm not sure I understand the need for voltage step down here. The signal from the camera(s) arrives on a yellow RCA cable, right? Are there under voltage and need to be reduced?

The chinese/russian unit is running Android and I saw a few videos of those and it does not instill be with confidence in terms of its speed. I don't want something laggy of unknown origins for a £150. I'd rather spend £200 on a branded kit. Plus, with the surround from your photos it puts it a bit closer to the driver, which is nice. Touch screen where the original sat-nav is, is a little to far.

Can you just clarify that you had the original sat-nav, you ripped it out, added the additional surround and then the unit went in? 

The units I am looking at are generic 2-din units. Some are full 2-din in the back as well as the screen, some only have a 2-din screen with a reduced in size backs.

To be completely honest, I am looking at the options available and the cost implications. If I am to spent £500 and potentially damaging the dash to get a little bit convenience, I may just use a phone holder for navi and bluetooth to RCA adapter like I have now, and live with it, while only using the built in sat-nav for front and rear cameras.

@PTR200SDid you install this after taking out the standard japanese sat nav? I saw the russian supplied Android kit but I'd rather fit something that comes with Apple Car play out of the box. Quite a few Sony, JVC, Meanwood etc 2-din kits at Halfords. Wondering if I can install it instead of the original sat nav or would I need this surround to fit the aftermarket 2-din unit. 

21 minutes ago, PTR200S said:

Was that today ? Raining ? ....been blue skies on the west coast  🙂

a group shot is a great idea, ......which car gets the centre position?   Definitely a difficult choice!!!!

Few day ago actually. Lovely weather today

I was thinking about the arrangement. Do we put the red car in the middle? Do we order by engine displacement, age? I guess one show will not be sufficient

Thanks Managed to get all 3 parked in front of our home for a photo  Will take them to a proper spot soon.

Anyone managed to get it working? I can get some display from a plugged in device to the front (navigation) screen, but nothing on the rear TV.

TV is opened, tried using the remoteand the 'Rear TV' buttons on the dash, but not getting anything.

I'm enjoying those cars while I can. This line-up won't be with us forever. The Elysion is an upgrade for the Accord, so that will be sold soon. The Civic is on a 3 year lease that runs out in January 2021, and depending on my employer's requirements (we don't travel to client sites at all these days), I may not get another company car allowance. We'll still get another car to drive around town when Accord and Civic go, and it will be a Honda for sure. Just not sure what it might end up being yet.

Maybe a fresh Civic? Or something older like a Prelude? :) Who knows.

27 minutes ago, PTR200S said:

Hi Robert,  thanks for the pics, that looks a great buy 🙂         Ilyas  ride ??

I saw that other one you mentioned,  pretty bad on pics and obviously much worse when you viewed it. 🙃 

You like the electric slide doors then , 😄 ?

I suspect you love Honda? You are definitely in the right place on here.🤣

That's right  He's one tough negotiator  

Been a Honda fan since when I was 15 but only owned one when I was 27. From then on, only Honda in our family (managed to convert some friends and relatives too). Not to mention the house is full of Honda cars, brochures, merchandise etc